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2nd Mar

Hey guys,

We ran into a situation today where a group of people killed us, they did a damn fine job.  Then we got onto a bird with spmg's and found them, we started firing at them and it turned into a good little chase, but they retreated into a safe zone while we were fighting, and we shot them down  We had obviously damaged them and they were trying to get away, but to fly iinto the safe zone in the middle of a fight to avoid it?  That is almost as bad as combat logging.

Either way we wanted to let you know the situation, as they are going to be reporting us for this as well.

Edit: I went into the epoch TS and saw Gompy there and told him our opinion. The people involved in this little mess was BNR_Daishi, BNR_Inigo, and BNR_Razor. Both Razor and I were the ones doing the shooting. Their group was bobV1la, Gompy, and Bryce.

Thank you as always
BNR


The unfortunate truth of reality is that you cannot only be maimed mentally by ignorance, but physically as well.
-H.P. Lovecraft

Last Edit: 2nd Mar by BNR_Daishi
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2nd Mar

Why are you leaving out the part where you acknowledged we were in the safe zone, calling us little bitches in sidechat, and then resuming firing at us until we crashed due to damage? Then trying to loot our bodies as well?

Pretty hypocritical when you have a post yourself complaining of being killed in the safe zone.
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2nd Mar

You cannot chase them into the safe zone and keep firing at them. Once they above or into the Safe zone.. I would turn around and head off somewhere..you can engage them later once they are out but you cannot wait by the Safe zone edge and then chase them again once they leave. Have to be aware where you are at all times
And yes.. flying into the SZ is a coward move if you are on the losing end of a dogfight.Kinda frowned upon actually.If you play and cant take your losses, then why bother with Arma?
We do have rules regarding SZ exit and entry when it comes to chasing people into or out of the SZ.. I am hoping H4wk3y3z or Viper will chime in..
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2nd Mar

Did anyone document this in anyway? video or pics?
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2nd Mar

Come on, guys!!.. a little shit talk is expected!! I am sure ya`all heard way worse

And yes..ya`all know..NO LOOTING in the SZ ..that includes vehicles/players, even tho you did get the kill.

ETA... before this escalates into a outright shitstorm over something that could have been avoided and should not have happen and clearly Clan BNR was in the wrong( sorry guys).I am proposing this..

Replace what was lost.. offer an apology....move on!

If that is not good enough, no one is willing etc.. I then have the owner or co-owner do what they deem necessary to resolve this issue.

Measles
Last Edit: 2nd Mar by Measles
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2nd Mar

If they had shot us down without realizing that we were in the safe zone we wouldn't have cared, don't expect you to be looking at the map while also firing an lmg.

My issue was with acknowledging we were in a safezone, then resuming shooting us down even though they knew it was against server rules, and then trying to loot our bodies until I touched down by parachute and called them out.

There is no rule in the server rule list that says no going into the safezone while in combat, and if they weren't able to take us down before we made it to one, they should accept that as a loss on their part and break off somewhere else. We made it to our intended destination in one piece until they shot out my rotor while 50 meters off the ground literally beside the trader.

Had no intention of trying to get anyone banned other than having an admin remind them of server rules.
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2nd Mar

You are right.. there is NO rule regarding going to the SZ while/during combat.BUT.. it is frowned upon in the gaming community to do so to end combat when you are on the losing side or just want to avoid having to buy a new Heli. I am in no way saying you guys did that..
They where wrong.. clearly. And we will address this issue.

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2nd Mar

We weren't on the losing side though realistically. We're had already outranged them in a Chinook vs little bird speed race. We headed to the safezone, started to descend, they eventually caught up and kept shooting. We let them know we were in a safezone, they acknowledged and resumed firing. We could have just flown straight and disappeared but thought we were safe distance for them to realise what happened
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2nd Mar

Measles,

It was a found heli, and of course we can compensate them. I did apologize to them in TS and said that the favorable way to resolve this was do to it peacefully, but they still poured the salt on. I think they won't be happy unless you ban us. If Viper or Hawk feel that we were in the wrong to the point of banning us that is fine, but I will have to say that I still don't like that thought that if I'm in a fight and I want to get away without any repercussion, I can flee into a safe zone and the other party can't do crap. I also feel that this team really does have a vendetta against BNR because on multiple engagements we have killed them after they had cleared a mission and we pretty much took off with their gear the mission drops. They might think we are picking on them, but that isn't the case, we pick on everyone we can. We love PvP.

@Bob, I acknowledged you were in the safe zone and apologized, and above can't you read where I said we shot you down in the safe zone? I trash talked in general chat, but that is just part of the game. If you can't handle that then I apologize for that. If you want to call some sort of truce where we don't kill you and we ignore you that is fine, but if you have to still act like a little baby, then I guess the only thing I can do is mail order you some diapers.

Edit: I just saw this.

[quote="liar"]If they had shot us down without realizing that we were in the safe zone we wouldn't have cared, don't expect you to be looking at the map while also firing an lmg.

My issue was with acknowledging we were in a safezone, then resuming shooting us down even though they knew it was against server rules, and then trying to loot our bodies until I touched down by parachute and called them out.

Had no intention of trying to get anyone banned other than having an admin remind them of server rules.

To clarify. We did not loot anyone's body, we asked who's was who's because remember we died right by you..... and continually; and might I add until you left, kept on pointing out items that had been dropped by your fellow team mates. So Bob, bad boy... didn't you know that lying makes you look like a big funny idiot?

Second off, you were all ready in a tail spin when I had hit enter to say, "Oh sorry Safe Zone". When we saw you in the tail spin Razor still kept on firing and I finally had to say something in Group Chat because he wasn't looking at side chat.

Third off I don't need to request myself to be banned. I listed what we did and am letting the admins decide for themselves. So shove off and quit telling lies in hopes to try and get BNR out of your hair because you are tired of us killing you and you killing us.


The unfortunate truth of reality is that you cannot only be maimed mentally by ignorance, but physically as well.
-H.P. Lovecraft

Last Edit: 2nd Mar by BNR_Daishi
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2nd Mar

No one will be banned!! lets shut it down for now.. I say we all go to TS tonight with a mod or admin and lets discuss it like adults..

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2nd Mar

Again, just saying we don't want anyone banned, or disciplined or anything. Just clarification on the rules and a reminder to bnr about said rules. I will be on teamspeak later today but as far as I can tell the issue is resolved.
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2nd Mar

If that is the case , case closed.!!
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2nd Mar

Sounds good to me.

Once again team BobV1la, sorry for the BM play on our part. We'll cya in the game. I spoke with BNR_Razor about what transpired and he knows that we here in BNR don't support bad manners in game even if we don't agree with how it happened. There will be multiple chances to kill you and multiple chances for you to kill us. So thank you for your understanding.


The unfortunate truth of reality is that you cannot only be maimed mentally by ignorance, but physically as well.
-H.P. Lovecraft

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2nd Mar

Issue is resolved. Amicably ..

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6th Mar

OK, even though I have seen the issue has been resolved. Here is a little better explanation as to why we allow the running back to a safezone. OK, lets just say you're in a heli, where you have no way to shoot back at a helicopter. Of course there should always be a way out or else every time you came across someone in a hummingbird with their buddies hanging off the side, you would have no chance at surviving.. Its not the cowards way. We have given everybody the chance to survive. There are numerous lone players on the server. They have no chance at firing back at a chopper that may be chasing them (unless they land....and that is most likely the worst thing to do when you're being chased....). We have to give everybody a chance. We can't just be thinking about the large groups here. We have to think about the little guys out there too.
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